Monday, December 04, 2006

Re: [rosacea] Re: RE:Dr. David J. Goldberg: Combining Light-Based Treatments & Topic

hi dan,
thankyou for the info, the new yellow lite sounds as hopeful as the red led is good.
i'm lovin' my recent aura laser effects, and hope they last a while.
emily
----- Original Message -----
From: dfries2003
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:04 AM
Subject: [rosacea] Re: RE:Dr. David J. Goldberg: Combining Light-Based Treatments & Topic

Hi Emily,

Hope all is well with you. Based on Dr Goldberg's responses:

"We generally provide a series of 5-7 LED treatments. They are given
2-4 weeks apart. Yellow LED treatments take only seconds". Again,
this is with medical grade units, so potentially home based units (at
least those of a lower power) might require more frequent treatments.

Also, I found the following interesting about Yellow LEDs:

"Basic rule is yellow LED for mild redness, red LED for more inflamed
rosacea, combination of red and near-infrared for inflammation and
swelling."

Dan

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, <kemx@...> wrote:
>
> how often do the yellow led tx need to happen?
> i wonder if it would be neccessary if one were doing other tx such
as IPL, or PDL.
> emily
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dfries2003
> To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:28 PM
> Subject: [rosacea] Re: RE:Dr. David J. Goldberg: Combining
Light-Based Treatments & Topicals f
>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> One last thing. Potentially the difference between the home based
> units and the more powerful medical quality units is in how frequently
> treatments must be administered. It appears based on posts that I've
> read from users of home based units, that they seem to work best with
> more frequent use, whereas the medical quality units seem to allow
> more infrequent treatments. Just a thought...
>
> Dan
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Matthew I <mtthw_i@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > Thanks for getting these questions off Dr Goldberg and a
> big thanks to Dr Goldberg for answering them.
> >
> > I understand he would be an extremely busy man, However I feel like
> he did not answer the questions thoroughly. He didn't provide any
> evidence besides what he had seen. He only used statements such as
> "appears to be" and "seems to suggest" which I don't think is the
> proof that the Rosacean community needs.
> >
> > Once again, I understand he would be an extremely busy man, and I am
> very grateful that he has already taken the time to answer these
> questions, but is there any chance that he can explain the WHY behind
> all the claims?
> >
> > For example, WHY did the Yellow LED treatment shrink the blood
> vessels and what exactly did it do to them that caused a reduction in
> visible size? Can you show us the studies? How many people was this
> conducted on? By what factor were they made smaller?
> >
> > He answered a little more thoroughly to the question about RED /
> N.I.R LED's when he said "Red and near-infrared LED have a major
> impact on many cells that cause inflammation"
> > But what is this major impact on many cells?
> >
> > Goldberg says "Home units generally are not powerful enough to lead
> to same results as medical quality units"
> >
> > Can he elaborate on this? Regardless of the power source, The lighy
> output of an LED will approach a limit. If you analyse the Light
> Output Vs Drive current curve, the light output will flatten and
> approach a maximum regardless of the drive current.
> >
> > Is this a scheme to make it seem essential that we go to a clinic
> for treatments?
> > Or is there some special high light output LED that is not available
> for purchase by the general public? Can he supply his treatment levels
> in Joules per square cm?
> >
> > I don't mean to sound unnappreciateive here. I am very thankful that
> he answered some of our questions. But can he please provide the
> evidence we need?
> >
> >
> > Were you satisfied with his answers Dan?
> >
> > Matt.
> >
> >
> >
>
----------------------------------------------------------
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Dr David J. Goldberg, MD, director of Skin Laser & Surgery
Specialists
> > of New York and New Jersey and a clinical professor of
dermatology and
> > director of laser research at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New
> > York, has kindly answered a few questions for us on his Dermatology
> > Times article, "Combining light-based treatments, topicals for
> > rosacea". A compilation of these questions and answers has been
> > added to Experts' Comments section of the Rosacea Support Resource
> Pages:
> >
> > http://rosacea- research- foundation. org/wiki/ index.php/
> Combining_ Light-Based_ Treatments_ and_Topicals_ for_Rosacea:
> _Dr._David_ J._Goldberg% 2C_MD
> >
> > We'd like to thank Dr. Goldberg again for taking the time to help
> > answer some of our questions.
> >
> > The full Rosacea Support Resource Page list can also be browsed from
> > the following link (or by clicking on the link at the top right
of the
> > Rosacea Support home page):
> >
> > http://rosacea- research. org/wiki/ index.php/ Main_Page
> >
> > Hopefully this new page will provide information that you will find
> > helpful. Please be sure to discuss the information contained within
> > the Resource Pages with a qualified physician in order to determine
> > the best form of treatment for you.
> >
> > And again, please feel free to send any feedback on the Resource
> > Pages, including suggestions for modifications, additions, etc to
> > wiki-feedback@ rosacea-research .org
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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